Suffrage

You may find it difficult to accept when I said some people do not support point #1.

However, there are several possibilities in this regard:

1. They do not support democracy per se.
2. They do not support universal suffrage (普選).
3. They do not support civil nomination (公民提名).

Let's take aside possibility #1 for the time being. (A serious omission, I dare say.) When the story of Occupy Central first began, the yellow campus was fighting for civil nomination. In fact, it remains the latest stand point of Hong Kong Federation of Students (香港專上學生聯會) and Scholarism (學民思潮). On the other hand, people who put up that remarkable banner on Lion Rock or a similar one outside the hostel of our students are asking for a (genuine) universal suffrage.

However, in the jargon of logics, is civil nomination a necessary condition for universal suffrage? 

Apparently not. Most of the countries that we agree being democratic do not have civil nomination. 

Of course, we have to consider the possibility that in the scenario of Hong Kong (under the substantial influence of several invisible hands), a genuine universal suffrage is only possible when there is civil nomination.

What do you think?